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I bet it is yet another component that has migrated away from UWP/WinUI into Webview2, hence the lag.

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Waiting for Windows 12, where the entire UI will run in an electron container.

Then I’ll wait for Windows 13, where all of it has been rewritten in JS.

Initially that was a big preposition for WinRT, actually.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinJS

When Windows 8 was initially previewed at Microsoft's developers conference, .NET wasn't still part of the overall picture.

I wish someone would explain to me the rationale of spending time and resources migrating to something to make it worse.

Talent pool

How many people are proficient enough in C nowadays to maintain the old shell?

It’s the world’s most popular desktop operating system. They can afford to hire capable software engineers.

They can afford it but it probably won't increase Windows revenue, which is anyway only ~10% of their income. If they could make upgrades that people would pay $$$ for like in the Win95 days they'd be motivated to try but desktop OS is a mature segment, and people expect updates to be free now, so it kills the incentives to do anything.

As if, see recent offshoring issues with US software delivery.

Surely if Microsoft was consistently hiring devs proficient in C, there would be more devs proficient in C, no?

I spent a good few hours contemplating this over the last couple of years and the only rational answer I can find is that they are, apologies for language, just complete fucking morons.

Like the sibling comment points out.

I drank the WinRT Kool Aid between Windows 8, Windows Phone and the clear failure of Project Reunion.

Still I keep myself around, expecially to warn newbies that whatever Microsoft is selling for WinUI, regardless of the shiny cover, the book inside is roten.

Whatever I have learnt from community calls and endless Github discussions, is that most new interns never did Windows development before landing on Windows team.

The calls are available on YouTube, mostly young, puzzled looks when questioned about feature XYZ coming to Windows, not even understanding issues that come from Windows 8 and 8.1 UAP model, that predated UWP, among other possible examples.

I would dare to say they did all their studies in UNIX world, Apple, Google devices, before landing a job at Microsoft.

So Web technologies it is.

Note I am not blaming them, each one gets to learn what they can, how they can.

The blame lies on upper management of a 4 trillion valued company, that isn't able to put in place the resources and learnings, so that the team can actually deliver, as it used to be during the 3x "Developers!" dance.

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