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The kind of conditions for peace Russia seems to be going for allows them an unfair position to restart the war in a few years, or pressure Ukraine to become a satellite state for Russia with threat of a new invasion.

This is via demanding Ukraine imposes restrictions on their armed forces, Ukraine giving up territories Russia doesn’t even control today but which are awfully convenient invasion grounds in a potential future attack on Kyiv and declaring Western peacekeepers in Ukraine post-war as a dealbreaker by their FM.

Not to even mention denying any future entry to an alliance like NATO.

And all this by a country that has a record of breaking such agreements time and time again.

Is this really a sound deal Ukraine should take?

Sure, Vlad.

If Russia stops fighting, they lose the war. If Ukraine stops fighting, they lose the country.

I note in the lost war, Russia at its peak controlled 27% of Ukraine in 2022, and now after three years and ~1m casualties controls 19% and is having problems with its oil industry blowing up.

agreed but I think you are underselling it. “loosing the country” sounds like an administrative detail. I know you probably do not mean this at all, but I’d like to remind everyone: reports coming from (previously) russian occupied areas are horrifying. Loosing the country would mean the situation of these areas extends to all of Ukraine.

Even if the war ends, Russia will continue to run a regime of terror and brain washing to make sure no one ever even thinks of regaining independence again, ever.

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