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If your analysis is entirely headline based I can see why you might be confused. There are several levels of starvation, and Israel has progressively put Gaza through each. Complaining at each step is absolutely valid.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famine_scales

You can be kept on the brink of starvation just like you can keep a cup hanging over the edge of a table. It's a manufactured famine, therefore it can be created with precision. Unlike the potato famine in Ireland, it's controlled and they literally count calories going in (before cutting it to 0).

So according to that logic, Israel is intentionally orchestrating a "brink of starvation" which generates for it negative publicity but is very careful to ensure nobody actually starves. Why would be the strategy in that according to you?

Because they thought actual famine would be worse. They didn't realize how little the US would care.

I think there's something to the IQ comment I made earlier. If adversary A claims the adversary B is doing a terrible thing, that thing doesn't materialize, the smart money isn't to be like "oh well B is only not doing it because they are sinister."

Or say another way - if "they are evil" whether they do X or opposite of X, whoever is setting up that story for you is full of shit.

So you're saying because famine didn't appear right away, they weren't doing anything wrong? So if I come with a shotgun to your house and you say "he's going to shoot me" I waited an hour before realizing the cops weren't coming and shooting you. In that intervening hour, is it a low IQ argument to say that I'm going to shoot you, but I haven't for fear of consequences?

Given all the hatred that is going around, I believe the genocide is real. And if it's not real yet, it will be if someone doesn't put a stop to this.

But all the reporting does not add up.

Half the pictures Hamas shows of starving children aren't legitimate. They're children with medical conditions, not in Gaza, or from a different conflict.

The number of people starving to death each day are in the single or low double digits. If what was said was really true, there would be tens of thousands of people dead by now.

And I don't believe a single thing Israel says either. How many tunnels were actually found under hospitals? Definitely at least one. Definitely not all of them.

A little truth makes all the lies more believable.

I think starving children with medical conditions is even worse! I really do not understand the recent Free Press articles about how news reporting about how children in Gaza are starving is not legitimate because the starving children in question had a medical condition. How does that matter? What audience is this news for? It makes everyone involved look like ghouls.

Exactly.. If your medical condition requires you to consume protein instance, and there are no sources of protein around (at reasonable prices), and you die out of starvation. How is that not a legitimate case?

https://youtu.be/Yu2qqlHT-zA

> If what was said was really true, there would be tens of thousands of people dead by now.

But that is exactly the claim. What is your argument here? You say there cannot be a genocide because genocide is too awful?

“Half the pictures Hamas shows of starving children aren't legitimate. They're children with medical conditions, not in Gaza, or from a different conflict.”

This seems like a strong claim. Please back it up.

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