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The last funding approved was passed through reconciliation with zero democrats. There is no “voting for funding they supported in the past” that spending plan is gone

And the republicans could just vote to change the rules of the senate.

The out of power party gets a little veto power here. The republicans know the day will come they want that, so they won’t change the rules even though they have the power to do so (theoretically… there are republicans that will never compromise on this). Unfortunately they can’t get on the same page with their lame duck leader

Sometimes I do think the Democrats should just let Republicans ruin themselves on this issue. Make a fuss, make it clear you're worried about increasing health costs and are trying to stop it, but eventually, you might just have to let people experience the consequences of the party they elected.

The Democrats care about healthcare costs increasing like remember when Obama caved on the public option because he sold out to the insurance companies?

>The Democrats care about healthcare costs increasing like remember when Obama caved on the public option because he sold out to the insurance companies?

Actually, that was Joe Lieberman, not Obama if memory serves. And apparently it does.

According to Wikipedia[0]:

   The public health insurance option, also known as the public insurance option 
   or the public option, is a proposal to create a government-run health 
   insurance agency that would compete with other private health insurance 
   companies within the United States. The public option is not the same as 
   publicly funded health care, but was proposed as an alternative health 
   insurance plan offered by the government. The public option was initially 
   proposed for the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, but was removed 
   after the independent US senator for Connecticut Joe Lieberman threatened a 
   filibuster.[1][2]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_health_insurance_option

Yeah, we need some better Democrats, and some better Republicans would be nice too. More populists, fewer protectors of the billionaires.

What was the date that you imagine that Democrats all gathered together and voted for a budget under Trump?

I would say that at the time of the election, the idea of funding ICE at the level of the third largest military in the world would be considered a conspiracy theory.

The democrats won't do that because that would lose them the only leverage they have in a government where republicans hold majorities in all three branches.

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