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An inevitable consequence of this administration destroying US foreign influence and power at an unprecedented rate is that (IMHO) it is inevitable that the EU builds their own cloud and mandates its use for EU data. It is becoming a matter of national security.

The interesting thing is that the US is acting in the exact way that they accuse China of acting. Companies like Huawei are forbidden from installing telecom infrastructure for "national security" reasons [1]. One of justifications for first banning then forcing a sale of Tiktok was because of possible Chinese government interference. It's only a matter of time before the EU and China start making the same determination against US tech giants (eg Meta executive brags about silencing dissent [2]).

This administration really is killing the golden goose.

[1]: https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/us-fcc-bans-e...

[2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eO8byuv6PE

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Huawei is itself fully to blame. They knowingly supplied equipment to Iran.

Yeaah! God forbid anyone trades with those whom the US targets. But the US sending 70% of the bombs Israel used to murder children is okay though...

I don't think that YouTube video is a good supporting piece for your point. The spokesperson says they don't want to propagate harmful stereotypes. "brag about silencing dissent" seems like a strawman interpretation

A better faith interpretation is that people are free to criticize Israel and Zionism on Meta, just not using racist tropes.

Oh if that were only true. It's been made apparent in the last 2 years in particular that fighting antisemitism from the perspective of the ADL and figures like Jordana Cutler (who previously worked for the Israeli Prime Minister's Office) simply means silencing critcism of Israel, even when that means siding with actual antisemites (up to and including neo_nazis and outright Nazis). Examples:

- Ben Shapiro excuses antisemitic remarks by Ann Coulter because she's pro-Israel [1];

- ADL defends Elon Musk for making the Nazi salute (twice) on stage [2]

- We brutalized people with the police for organizing peaceful protests to say "maybe we shouldn't bomb children" or to get their respective universities to divest their endowments from the state doing the bombing;

- We went so far as trying to deport legal permanent residents for organizing said peaceful protests (ie Mahmoud Khalil); and

- The IHRA definition of antisemitism includes criticisms of the state of Israel.

[1]: https://x.com/benshapiro/status/644505141299671041

[2]: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/22/adl-faces-backlash-...

I was replying to the claims on big tech company policies. Jordana Cutler appears to be an internal advocate for reducing antisemitism on the Meta platform. They don't set policy. There are many similar roles for many different groups, it's how the company tries to hear more points of view before making policy changes.

We can only judge big tech company policy based on its declaration or application. So far I see no supported criticisms of either, though I am open to them.

Meta is one of the worst for silencing ("downranking" or outright removing) pro-Palestinian content [1]. That's what Cutler is bragging about.

But it would be a mistake to single out Meta here. All these big tech companies move in lockstep with US foreign policy to appease the administration to get approvals for mergers, to end investigations and antitrust suits, to get government contracts and so on.

[1]: https://www.hrw.org/report/2023/12/21/metas-broken-promises/...

Some of us remember Americans going ape shit over that Kirk guy lmao.

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