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I think the HN crowd and the public at large have different ideas of usability. The "I want to save the file on my computer that I own" resonates with us. But there are a lot of advantages to a mobile like experience. There's no viruses, you never lose files, apps don't lock up your device, and so on.

The problem isn't really the experience being something like devices as a service. It's that the providers are a rent seeking duopoly.

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_Maybe_ no viruses is accurate most of the time, but certainly this cannot be extended to no malware. Mobile platforms are 90% malware/spyware.

It doesn't help that the big tech advertising platforms are making money off pushing ads peddling investment scams and malware. So long as there is a financial incentive to make money in ways that harm "users" things will only get worse. Governments have failed consumers.

Malware has a specific meaning - that one app can surreptitiously embed itself in your device, cause damage, or exfiltrate your info.

I’m not saying there haven’t been vulnerabilities in iOS. But those were bugs that Apple tried to close. For desktop operating systems, giving third party applications that ability is a feature not a bug.

Yes I’m including MacOS in that bucket - see Zoom installing a web server on Macs without letting users know.

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