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Not so many with the masked unidentified death squads though, at least not in the G20.

People want to know the identity of law enforcement to dox them. Police, federal agents, lawyers, and judges can be pressured by criminals and organized crime. That’s a thing, you know that right?

That is far down the list of reasons someone might want to know who is performing actions against them with the backing of the federal government. Much higher on the list would be accountability if they do something wrong or to reference them in any follow up legal or administrative interactions they might have in the giant immigration system.

How many judges hide their identity?

Doxxing is the first and most obvious reason. Federal agents aren’t directly subject to the public, their respective agencies and the President hold them accountable.

The current POTUS is on record stating point blank he will not hold ICE and DHS agents accountable.

Currently theer is no effective Federal investigation into the earlier murder by ICE in MN, the DOJ, FBI, etc. have been directed to look to the motivations of the victim rather than the illegal traffic stop and boxing in by agents.

The vice president and Homeland Security Advisor claimed they had absolute immunity, and the Feds refuse to investigate shootings. So there is no accountability.

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Bivens, in principle, provides a direct mechanism to sue federal agents who violate your rights.

That’s cool but Bivens doesn’t generally apply to ICE and it’s nearly impossible to create a case against them with that legal precedent.

I'm well aware that defending the existence of masked unidentified death squads is a thing in some North American countries, yes.

It is also common in some South American countries, eg: Venezuela.

https://snyder.substack.com/p/maduro-in-minneapolis

The president of the US is a convicted criminal - 34 felony counts, no less. He has made or threatened war on several countries, and threatens it regularly against US citizens. Let's get real about who's doing the threatening here.

non sequitur

Then don’t be a cop, if you’re too scared. Law enforcement barely has any accountability as it is. Legit LEO do not hide their identity because they are accountable to the population they serve.

You’re advocating for coercion.

No. It’s accountability. There’s a reason real LEO have to identify themselves. You seem to be ok with having a secret police.

hyperbole

And yet all the other LE, agents, lawyers and judges don't wear masks.

A state and federal judge’s personal information is privileged to protect them from reprisals. Some of the most vulnerable people in the legal system are witnesses, hence witness protection programs which can involve plastic surgery.

I mean, yeah, that's how volks have always justified having secret police. That's probably literally the only justification for secret police.

Congrats on being in favor of secret police, I guess....

hyperbole

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