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Its calling for the US to stop copying the bad parts of Chinese Policy and go back to matching the good parts.

The US government is now more authoritarian than the Chinese government. Half of what you've been told is propaganda, like the "social credit score" story.

In China they put people to death for corruption, here they just get a well-paid lobbying job.

Speaking as an American with some personal history in Hong Kong (on both sides of the PRC handover), saying "is now" is not accurate.

That said, I would agree to "may soon become if we don't stop it." We aren't there yet, but we're on a bad trajectory.

> The US government is now more authoritarian than the Chinese government

Nah we’re not playing this game.

Try asking the CCP officials in person about Uyghur internment camps, or Tiananmen Square, and see if your family isn’t all arrested.

Ask Olympian Alysa Liu how the CCP targeted her father to try to coerce her to skate for China.

they shot unarmed protestors in US streets.

I think the next 3 or so years in the US are going to be a real awakening for you, if the last year hasn't. It's going to become more and more difficult to shove your head deeper into the sand.

Nah I’m good, and we’re pretty good overall.

See how I can have a different opinion and not get arrested? Whereas if you ask someone in China if they’re communist, they’re not allowed to say “No.”

When your opinion of a fascist authoritarian government is "nah I'm good", then anything that follows is nothing worth listening to. Using whataboutism to excuse the current administration is ridiculous.

Oh but this game is fun! I see your Uyghurs and raise the Falun Gong. A religious cult that is against pretty much anything liberal, but because they are a thorn in China's side they get US support and are oh-so-persecuted. They even have an anti-Communist acrobatics show called Shen Yun. Yes, that one, the one that spams your mailbox with flyers, and abuses kids.

I made the mistake of clicking through to your profile. This isn’t even the most nonsensical reply you’ve made today. That’s unfortunate.

Don't be an ass. Someone can be an ethically bad person and still do things that you can learn and benefit from. Moreover, saying China is doing good at research does not somehow mean you support their government.

Did you miss Trump's plan to censor the internet except for party approved propaganda? It was on the front page here a few days ago. The propaganda site will be called freedom.gov.

I mean, they're both authoritarian right now. But at least one of them doesn't think science is woke. So....

if you actually think China would even entertain the idea of funding some of the scientific research conducted in the US over the past few decades, you have a fantasy view of what is going on outside the US. That political controversy wouldn't even arise because it's such a nonstarter that it could never even become a controversy.

Past being the key point. Because, right now it's all Dumpty all the time, until we boot his weak tools and fools November. I'm confident we are stronger than that two bit corrupt fraud, and will get back to where science funding is a priority. Hopefully our state of affairs is much more temporary than what China is subjected to. But there's absolutely no question whether the dunce parade in the US is anti science.

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