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I look up to apple as a company that has good taste as opposed to Samsung that immediately appears as bloated.

But the Touch Bar, butterfly keyboard and Face ID have been so laughably bad that I wonder what the hell was going on. Or was I the only one who hated them.

Face ID in particular is probably one of the most annoying things about the iPhone. Constantly misses.

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Interesting, I have a lot of criticisms for Apple, but Face ID is not one of them, it is absolutely flawless for me. I wonder if you wear glasses or have facial hair?

No I don’t. I can’t open it during the night when I’m under the blanket for example

That comment is so Hacker News.

What does that even mean? I know people not on HN who have the same complaint. I also dislike Face ID, it often fails in very dark or very bright situations, it’s never a feature I don’t need to think about. Touch ID on my previous iPhone, however, never failed.

I'm honestly suddenly having issues unlocking my iPhone 17 Pro in broad daylight. Feels like it doesn't work in the sun anymore. No hair, just eyeglasses.

I've found you can do one of two things to some door this:

1. Turn around and face the other way. 2. Make a visor with your other hand on your forehead.

I think I’m in the opposite camp. Loved the butterfly keyboard and Face ID works almost always, so much so that I regret getting a Touch ID iPad. And this is with me having facial hair and glasses. Touch Bar was a miss for me too though

I loved the touch bar.

Unfortunately it was a cool thing that died a slow death when nobody made meaningful use of it. At that point it made sense to axe it.

I thought the Touch Bar with Esc was kinda ok, but by that time its reputation was already destroyed.

The experience of using the butterfly keyboard was fantastic, I agree, but it was definitely polarizing. Some people hated it. At the end of the day, however, the reliability issues were unacceptable.

If you think FaceID is hit or miss, I guess you haven't tried the keyboard lately?

My wife and I always make a grocery list at the end of the work day. About 1/3rd gets autocorrected in something that is wrong, was not the case a few years ago. Also, selecting text is an absolute pain now (also used to be ok).

At this point I'm wondering if program managers at Apple even use it, but then what else would they use?

I would prefer Touch ID

I meant: the keyboard is highly unreliable.

fair yeah that too

It's insane to me that they didn't let Face ID be an alternative to Touch ID

Why? TouchID is less secure, has more friction, and brought up more biometric concerns.

Convenience, it's easier to put your thumb on the phone, it's already in your hand

And I'm already looking at my phone

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