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Iran would close the Straight later.

That’s why they were building all these missiles. Then when they are loaded up with thousands of more missiles the US wouldn’t be able to do anything about it or stop them from pursuing a nuclear weapon because they have too many missiles and the cost would be too great. The US is preventing a geopolitical (> strategic) defeat by acting now.

The US also lets the ships through because it’s just more oil on the market to keep prices low. Iran being able to shoot missiles doesn’t mean they control the straight. Otherwise the US also controls the straight because it can lob missiles at tankers. It’s been 5 weeks, let’s hold off on “possibly the worst strategic loss in all of American history” for a few weeks eh?

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There's nothing the US can do any more to stop Iran developing a nuclear weapon. They have just proved that peace talks don't work, negotiations don't work. The only way to defend yourself from America is to have the actual capability to nuke Washington DC from afar. And Iran has a right to defend itself, so it will develop that capability.

What would be the consequences? The same thing that already just happened? America punished them, killed their head of state as revenge for not having a nuke yet.

The US could do pretty much whatever it wants with Iran tbh. Iran’s entire navy is sunk. They have no functional air force. There’s also the obvious way to straight up finish them off, but the cost to Iran’s civilian population would be enormous and it would be unprecedented.

Then why did the US surrender just now instead of finishing the job? They have agreed to all of Iran's terms and imposed no terms of their own. And ships still aren't passing the Strait of Hormuz - why is that, if Iran has no military capabilities?

Why do you have some need to pretend the US surrendered? Just trolling, or do you actually believe that?

Either way, thx for the laugh.

The US just forced Iran to stop launching missiles at ships in the Straight in exchange for halting bombing operations.

> The US just forced Iran to stop launching missiles at ships in the Straight in exchange for halting bombing operations.

Interesting choice of words.

Let's try this again: the US implored for a ceasefire in exchange for Iran to stop destroying the economic base of US vassal states in the region and allow ships to go through the strait to mitigate the impending economic disaster this will have on the US economy.

Which one explains Trump abandoning all original demands regarding regime change and even threats to destroy civilian infrastructure?

US -> Stop launching missiles by 8PM ET for two weeks or we'll bomb you severely.

Iran -> Ok we will agree to that.

The situation in the Straight already occurred. The US doesn't give a hoot about the short term economic base of these vassal states.

> Which one explains Trump abandoning all original demands regarding regime change and even threats to destroy civilian infrastructure?

The one I wrote does.

Iran -> get the fuck out of the region, pay tariffs to us from now on, and let us develop nuclear weapons. (The 10 point plan)

US -> Ok we will agree to that.

is surrender

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