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I love when dialects for C and C++ count as being proper C and C++, are even argued as being more relevant than ISO standards by themselves, but anyone else that does the same, it is no longer the same language.

As for Python not being the ideal, there we agree, but the solutions with proper performance already exist, Lisp, Scheme, Julia, Futhark,...

Heck maybe someone could dig out StarLisp.

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> I love when dialects for C and C++ count as being proper C and C++, are even argued as being more relevant than ISO standards by themselves

I did not argue about CUDA being proper C++ :)

I honestly believe that the best days of C++ as an accelerator language are behind.

That is the main problem currently: We do miss a modern language for system programming that play well with accelerators. C++ is not (really) one of them (Hello aliasing).

I do not know if Mojo will succeed there, but I wish them good luck.

I would argue Chapel or Futhark could be such languages, but they aren't cool.

I just checked out Chapel because of this comment and it is very high up there among the coolest things I've seen this whole entire year.

Chapel maybe, but it is too low level to attract a large public outside of the HPC community.

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