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You can love Japanese culture and still call them out when they are clearly uncivilized. We're talking about a culture largely defined by the same people that did Nanjing. It's quite ironic that the same culture that claims to be pacifist has no problem inflicting psychological torture on prisoners. Asia in general has this problem.

Makes me think of TNG (Season 1, Episode 8). Death for walking on the grass.

What is Justice anyway?

«Uncivilised»

Compared to what? European and other western countries with significantly higher crime rates?

Safety comes at a cost.

North Korea has a crime rate of approximately 0%. That doesn't make it more civilised than western europe.

Prisoner conditions have nothing to do with crime rates. What is the connection?

Avoiding being a criminal due to fear of being subjected to those conditions?

When the punishment for a crime is morally worse than the crime itself I think there is a problem.

The punishment should be harsher than the crime. Stealing an apple might not be a "big problem", but it sets a precedent that taking someone else's property is acceptable under some circumstances -- say, the relative value of said object.

I'm not talking about the severity of the punishment I am talking about the moral wrongness of the punishment itself.

Torturing someone for a month for maybe stealing an apple, keep in mind you haven't even been charged with a crime yet, is a morally bankrupt system.

Morals are relative. I happen to align with Japan's morals, and wish Norway would take inspiration from it. We're on the far opposite end of the spectrum.

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