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Same for me. Windows Phone was super smooth even on budget phones with 1GB/512MB of RAM while Android would have been choppy as hell on such hardware.

Also, the Windows 8 tablet mode had better touch and swipe UX than the current Windows 11 when put in tablet mode. What a joke Microslop has become.

Nadella needs to clean house or step down. The only thing he executed well was the cloud/hyperscaler side of the business because he caught the period when everything was moving to the cloud and MS was well positioned to take advantage of that as big companies were already invested into the on-prem MS ecosystem, but on the consumer facing side he fumbled everything, all consumer products are worse than how they were under Balmer: Windows - trash, Office - trash, Xbox - trash, Bing - trash, Copilot - trash.

It's a major problem. As present trends continue, eventually nobody is going to need any Microsoft products anymore. I'm already watching clients gradually shift away from Office to simple using Google Workspace, and eventualy they'll do the same with Windows.

AWS is the dominant player in cloud hosting. What, exactly, does anyone need Microsoft for anymore?

> As present trends continue, eventually nobody is going to need any Microsoft products anymore.

People have been saying this for about 30 years now. Just like IBM, Apple, Adobe, etc, MS will probably outlive all its haters.

>What, exactly, does anyone need Microsoft for anymore?

Brand recognition? Why do people still buy Mercedes, BMW, Audi, VW when a Hyundai or Dacia does the same thing for cheaper?

Inertia and complacency? Most (non-startup) companies in Germany and Austria are Microsoft shops because that's what they've been using for 20+ years and MS has big customer support and sales teams here that wine and dine them regularly, but unicorn focused HN is oblivious to that.

Hardly anyone is still using IBM OfficeVision, though. Or, for that matter, HCL Notes.

Who said anything about that? IBM does consultancy like nobody else.

Also IBM still makes PowerPC CPUs and mainframes and those are still selling to niche customers who don't trust the cloud.

Microsoft will have its niche too if it flops.

I had a Lumia with 512MB of RAM. The OS ran great, but the web outpaced it. I couldn't open a lot of JS-heavy sites without Internet Explorer crashing.

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