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No, not really. Broadly, immigration has no effect on crime-rates. In case-study after case-study, it’s shown immigration has little to no impact on crime-rates. This was even disproven after the height of the Syrian refuge crisis! But media likes sensationalist reporting, so public perception doesn’t match the statistics.
> cultural demise.
Meaningless, also created by the media. If you listen to the media, Britain is under the fierce grip of Sharia law, enforced by… the 6% of the population that is Muslim. Yes, yes, how scary. I guess English culture was pretty weak, to meet its demise from such a meager blip.
This just isn't true. There are a lot of studies that purport this. There are also a lot of studies that purport the opposite. A quick look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_crime shows a bit of the field here.
The details get really important when talking about this. Details like:
- immigrant crime rates are often compared to non-immigrant rates, as if the native-born are a single bloc, rather than distinct segments
- "immigrants" treated as a single bloc
- immigrant crime getting controlled for by age, gender, income, and education --- which is cold comfort if the bulk of your immigration is poor uneducated young men
- first-gen immigrants, if immigrating to work, often have lower crime rates. This effect disappears with second-generation. But when they do crime, it is counted as native crime, rather than immigrant crime. That...doesn't quite cleave reality at the joints.
- labor law violations, tax evasion, etc., often not counted as "crime."
The thing is very simple: I am really not afraid of police in Germany. Worst thing that can happen is spending a night in jail. In other countries the police can shoot you or seriously beat you up. So basically there is no police. And the jail… well it’s all inclusive hotel compared to other countries. Deportation is anyway very unlikely. So what should stop me from doing bad things?
Secondly, the article hints at a sampling bias we have run into before, during the Syrian refugee crisis: Immigrants are not more likely compared to their peers.
If you compare a block that is predominately young men to the general population, they commit more crime – because they are young men, not because they are immigrants.
A proper statistical comparison looks at the sub-demographics, comparing immigrant and native folk to their peers in age and sex.
Compare 18-year old men from Algeria to native 18 year-old men, and they aren’t any more likely to commit crime. But between 18-year old men and the general population? Well, duh, because one group has more young men in it.
Which is to say: No, immigrants aren’t more likely to commit crimes.
* https://cordis.europa.eu/article/id/20635-eu-research-dispro...
If your point is that crime hasn't risen up since EU started to receive "refugees" in droves, you are either not living in EU or prefer to ignore wider evidence dismissing it as "far-right talking point" (whatever that is)
Actual study from actual scientists: https://www.ifo.de/en/press-release/2025-02-18/more-foreigne...
>“The results are consistent with international research, according to which migration and refugee inflows have no systematic influence on crime in the host country.”
> Foreigners are overrepresented in the crime statistics compared to their share of the population. This is due to factors independent of origin
It takes an incredible amount of chutzpah to admit that migrants are commiting more crime per-capita, and then build a statistical model to try to claim that actually more migrants doesn't cause an increase in crime.
It’s by far one of the safest countries in the world.
I think the way you phrase you reply makes it pretty clear where you stand emotionally and politically, so I won’t pretend that facts will change your mind, but alas.
So tired of hearing the same lies repeated over and over again in media.
It seriously puzzles me how one can carry the ridiculous thought. The only thing to advise here is perhaps to travel more - to countries like Singapore, Japan, Korea, Thailand and many other places where homelessness, rape, "refugee" with a knife on a street are not a part of everyday's life.
Germany was the safe country. When Germans lived there.
> I think the way you phrase you reply makes it pretty clear where you stand emotionally and politically, so I won’t pretend that facts will change your mind, but alas.
Instead of making emotional statements, would be great if you can actually bring facts you talking much of, but instead talking about your emotions. I would be extremely interested in "facts" explaining how importing criminals and uneducated 3rd world "refugees" actually made Germany (and rest of EU) safer.
And if you actually believe Berlin now is safer compared to Berlin in 90s, you can't be intellectually honest.
Not sure what “facts” you are presenting here?
I lived in Berlin for 20 years, stating that refugees with knifes are part of daily life is beyond delusional.
Just one thing i wonder - are you seriously trying to say Berlin is safer (in terms of crime) after Germany started to import 3rd world criminals in droves?
Just simple yes or no would do. Would say tons about logical thinking without using massaged police statistics.
Yeah since then I don’t trust the crime figures from Germany.
Only time will tell how each will play out.
Society moves at way slower pace, and wrong turns may takes decades to rectify. Needless to say wrong turns may have horrible ramifications lasting decades as well.
If you'd ask me, I would certainly be against tech approach here. Lets leave it where it does play well.
Efit: ah also targeting vulnerable lonely men with hateful rethoric, pushing toxic masculinity, anti-intellectualism, anti-science, offering easy but ultimately un-implementable solutions to complex problems.. the list just goes on. Dude, they're pulling your leg.