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Your duty of care is just as important as you want it to be

Tate is an influencer, as such he has influenced millions of young men (probably some women too) all over the world, by spread masculinist ideology, "gymbroism" and misogyny

He has multiple cases of crimes and felonies against him:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Tate#Criminal_investiga...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_the_Tate_brot...

If you have nephews, sons, (younger) brothers, I'd pay attention to their opinion about Tate. Could be a good warning that something's happening.

You can also afford not to care ^^

If you have daughters, nieces, or sisters, you might also want to pay attention. Because that's what other people's nephews, sons, and brothers are listening to, and he's telling them to target young women.

And in that case you can't afford not to care.

He’s just some idiot who started a self help/motivational educational website called Hustler’s University which had a “PhD program” that controversially explained how to pimp and make money off of girls by having them perform adult content and making tons of $’s while the man collected the revenue. Then proceeded to get accused by different women of rape and human trafficking and has had a long running legal battles and police investigations about it in different countries around the globe.

"motificational"? Excellent! "motifictional" also "motivafictional" would work , definitely reusing that!

Consider yourself lucky. He's a beyond-sleazy, probably criminal online influencer, important in what's called the "manosphere". He's made a lot of money exploiting and abusing women and encouraging other people to do so. If the online clips of him bragging about how to manipulate women into doing pornography don't make you want to throw up, you're pretty far gone. Unfortunately, lots of folks are, in fact, pretty far gone.

This is easily googled, no? It is not a twitter fight.

>A divisive influencer... third-most googled person in 2023... "king of toxic masculinity"... facing legal investigations in Romania, the United Kingdom, and the United States

(wikipedia)

Are you incapable of using some kind of search engine to find out?

OP was presumably not asking literally because they thought this was the best way to find out, they were doing so rhetorically to point out that Andrew Tate is not a person of any real significance or mainstream notoriety, who has garnered a weird amount of attention from a tiny set of terminally online people.

Basically, talking about him should be beneath the New Yorker, and the choice to publish about him drags a weird little pocket of the deep internet into the mainstream, in a way that makes us all worse off.

Yeah I think you're right

They're a troll given their reply to my comment a little above this same discussion. I thought they were literally asking for info xD but nope :/

You didn't bother to read the article or learn about the subject but you feel qualified to put "journalism" in quotes?

I'm not so good of a judge of these things but I don't think this is thst kind of article.

Yes, I profoundly dislike the lede "the defining figure of the manosphere"

Like, in who's opinion?

This would be like someone 40 years ago asking who Donald Trump is. It may not effect you yet but it likely will someday. Ignoring these people does not seem to help them go away

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