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Wait, so..

This is interesting. The "reported to me like a colleague" part.

Is it just that anthropic gave Mythos even more of that Anthropic™ character, (incorrectly) radiating confidence?

Is that why people have been losing their minds over that thing? Is this just cheap social engineering?

I mean I bet it is also slightly more capable than opus, but that would all check out to me. Man.

Thanks for sharing I suppose.

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No, it’s just a fundamentally much better model. Going back to Opus feels like the model has been lobotomized. It makes much more frequent errors, especially of the “I claimed I tested x y and z, but actually only kinda half heartedly tested x, and assumed I understood what was wrong” variety.

Wait but that has been the exact word-for-word complaint when comparing sonnet to opus

Or opus to opus

Or really any new thing to old thing

When the agent is becoming more accurate and thorough what would you expect to be reported?

Oh I am sure that it became somewhat more accurate, and with that, the labeling there is in fact technically correct. It just does not work as an explainer for the doomsday-ish hype that model has induced in a lot of people's brains.

The user here is right in what they said but wrong in why they said it, essentially.

An analogy I keep coming back to with the current progress in LLMs is the progress in the 90s of 3D game engines.

Every upgrade made what came before it appear awful in comparison, to such an extent that every upgrade was called "photorealistic" and people kept forgetting that they'd been using that description for the previous engines that they were now dismissing.

https://archive.org/details/nextgen-issue-26

That’s a rather bad faith framing, I think. Who are you to judge why I said something?

A person with the exact kind of pattern matching brain disorder this tech has been modeled after.

I do make mistakes though. Please check results.

You hear the same canard every time Anthropic releases a new model or version. I'm not convinced they're objective anecdotes. I wonder if it's simply the new model, while marginally better, has a different style and people find that new/refreshing. That is what makes it feel so much better than the previous release.

the primary difference i noticed is that fable didnt try to check in every minute

to an extent that might have done it, but i had been playkng around ahead of time trying to reverse engineer my ray bans case so i can make my own plastic insert, and fable to opus' work from mostly broken to mostly done, and then when fable went away, opus broke it again

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