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It's a movie. The whole thing is fiction. Robin Williams memorized the whole monologue, or was reading que cards.

Ask ChatGPT sometime about the artistic medium of cinema, and how words combined with actors speaking them can be meant to provoke something within the viewer.

> can be meant to provoke something within the viewer.

Doesn't make it any less fake. Both the message and the delivery.

same as literature which can provoke something in the viewer.

sometimes so strong it wins a literary prize.

then it turns out it was written by a LLM.

Are you talking about this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/literature/comments/1thqxgt/a_prize...

Linking the reddit thread rather than the article because it quite rightly rips the prize winning story apart as obvious LLM writing, to anyone familiar with LLMs. Another way of looking at that is that it was able to fake a simulacrum of artistic endeavor, enough to fool some people into giving it a prize. But anyone who spends enough time around these fakes will quickly learn to recognize them. It's kind of exactly the point this article is making, or at least a closely related one.

I think average people can easily spot AI because it mimics literature and most people don't spend that much time with literature. However literary critics should be fooled way more easily because what we perceive as stiff fakery is their daily bread and butter. People do write like AI, just not the people we are exposed to mostly.

I remember riding a train and there were other two passengers talking. And they talked in so obnoxiously literary manner I was cringing all the time. Those people were just reading a lot of high literature and their speech patterns aligned. For an average ear it doesn't sound good. And AIs, the smart ones, don't sound good in a very similar fashion.

Yeah, just like how every song sounds exactly the same live as on the album. There's no humanity in there, it's all just lifeless plans.

Weirdly, I get sick of hearing the album versions. But if I hear a live version of it, it is fresh again!

Fleetwood Mac's live re-arrangements of their hits are wonderful examples.

And an LLM is just generating a token stream from a set of model weights

Your thoughts are just some ions sloshing around a lump of meat.

That meat follows an ill-defined pattern encoded in fewer bits than the source code of PyTorch and its pretraining phase used a tiny fraction of the available data.

You’re a poor imitation of an LLM.

I mean… you’re fluent in, what, at most five or six languages? Can program in maybe another dozen if we’re being generous about your capabilities?

Pfft… who would trust anything to meat brains!? They’re famously prone to hallucinations!

Your understanding of biology could use an update, rather than the coy "meat", you might refer to the brain as "flesh" but better yet a lipid-rich gel the consistency of soft tofu. It is most certainly not "meat".

If we're making superficial critiques of others' comments with minimal relevance to their philosophical content, let me point out that meat is defined by its consumption as food and need not be muscle tissue specifically. Brains is meat.

> Brains is meat.

Found the zombie. Do I win a prize?

True.

Also, this is not a pipe:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Treachery_of_Images

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