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I object to the notion that having "american born engineers" is the cause of their issues.

It ain't the cause, but is definitely an enabler, because foreign talent on work visas effectively depends on their job much more so than their domestic counterparts and are thus very unlikely to push back against unreasonable demands or workload.

I don’t watch sitcoms anymore. I come read HN for these gems.

No but it demonstrates a disinterest in building software products and a bigger interest in playing business cost economics and securing their moat. Part of their strategy to force as much money into AI-hype as possible.

We may as well call them working hostages.

I have worked with some "american born engineers" that were some of the least competent people I've ever seen, while getting paid 2x or 3x of some "foreign contractors" on the same team

Yeah, that was unnecessary. Incompetent are born and work everywhere. In this case, Microsoft's problem with GitHub is trying to shove the square peg that is GitHub in to the round hole that is Azure.

Unfortunately, my company uses Outlook and Teams. Both are the worst piece of software I've ever used. They're just trash.

The UX is so bad. Things don't work as expected. Even basic things like composing an email, copy and pasting, formatting text are always a chore.

Try setting up a Teams integration vs a Slack integration. Gmail is absolutely light years ahead in UX. I really miss working at a company that uses Slack + Google Suites.

I'm not a huge fan of Team, but I do have to give them credit for making the experience better over the years- a few years ago, search didn't even work!

- Terrible experience setting up bots/integrations with Teams

- Super poor formatting when trying to do more complex posts such as headings and bullet points in replies

- Copy and pasting images often don't work

- When you upload a video, sometimes the last 1-2 seconds get cut for no reason at all

- Keyboard shortcuts are suboptimal. For example, cmd+ shift + v which should clear formatting does simply does not work on Teams/Outlook.

- Grouping chats is far less intuitive than Teams channels

Don't worry, they are also working hard at destroying those products too.

I'm not sure I understand the significance of them having almost no American born engineers. Do we think it would be meaningfully different if they were? I tend to believe that Americans can be just as incompetent as the next guy!

outsourced cost center

> Their employee base in Washington has almost no american born engineers.

First of all, I highly doubt it. Second, how would you even know that?

> Their employee base in Washington has almost no american born engineers.

Was that a sharp turn, or was it related in some way?

the whole software lifecycle is an outsourced cost center

Your comment history is full of barely-hidden racism. Get some help.

Off-topic clearly. but is there like an "NA/AA" for racism? Or like a therapy program or something akin to? Does 'usual' therapy touch on racism?

Like..where does one 'get help' for being racist? Honest question, I don't mean to sound snarky...

what the hell does having american born engineers have anything to do with software quality.

Man. This site is filled with weird racism.

outsourced cost center

yeah, that's called capitalism. What does it have to do with "foreign".

If Capitalists could, and are doing, they'd make alabama be engineers if they could afford it.

It's so weird watching the tech work force go ham into the "tey terk ow jobz" rather than look at capitalism.

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