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I know Opus is finished with the simple task I asked for when it starts outputting a 400-page lesson in verbosity (an opus?) complete with comparison tables, bullet-pointed lists of vaguely worded assertions, several self-blunder reports and a list of things it wants to mention but didn't touch yet but just say the word and it will.

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When it's overly verbose like that. Does that count against your usage as well? Also during its thinking does it output hidden thinking tokens?

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It definitely has to count as output tokens when it blathers on endlessly like that, yes. I actually wrote a skill called /speak-normal and that helps but over a long context Opus will forget and start getting real wordy again over time. It can be frustrating.

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