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If Fable doesn't add additional value in your workplace, it means you aren't being ambitious enough in how you integrate agents into your workstream.

Yes, it's probably comparable to 4.8 if you are just using it to write code and put up a couple pull requests. That's not where things are now.

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By ambitious if you mean we are not like all the linkedin influencers with their “i one shotted an app this morning…” then no, we are not. Nobody is. I have been in software engineering for 18 years and 6 different companies including FANG and 99% of the people, on 99% of the days arnt writing new apps from scratch. Thats simply not how anything works.

And what even are these ambitious companies and people one shotting and building with Fable? AI has been around for almost 3 years now. Tell me one app or software you use which has gotten significantly better and has amazing new useful features landing on a weekly basis? If anything, every single software product I use has gotten worse.

This is just "you're holding it wrong" with a little smooch of condescension. If only we plebeians could comprehend what magnificent works those who have ambitiously integrated agents into the workstream have wrought!

Sometimes you actually are holding it wrong. It's pretty reasonable to think that Fable isn't worth the massive increase in cost, but if you think it outright doesn't have any benefits over Opus 4.8 then your workflow is probably not making good use of the tools.

> Sometimes you actually are holding it wrong.

I couldn't imagine being so presumptuous as to know that my workflow fits all sizes, and all others are just holding it wrong – or worse, they're not doing real work. It would take a bigger ego on my part, or maybe less social awareness, to presume this.

> but if you think it outright doesn't have any benefits over Opus 4.8 then your workflow is probably not making good use of the tools.

I don't even use claude, I give exactly zero shits about fable or opus or bingus bongus.

I mean it's very easy to comprehend and you don't need me for it.

Just download claude code or codex and ask it to give suggestions about where to integrate agents into your workstream.

To be perfectly clear: my comment has nothing to do with your workflow, but rather with the way you've condescendingly implied the person's work is trifling and inferior because they don't use tools the same way you do.

You shouldn't be down voted, AI native companies have already moved up to the next level beyond writing individual PRs.

"AI Native" here meaning Companies where your token use isn't scrutinised/capped yet?

And where are things now?

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