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> It doesn't say anywhere that it cannot be advertised in a small town.

I think it is implies in: "The newspaper must be widely distributed in the area where the job is located."

When the job is wfh, the entire globe is where the job is located. Are there any physical rags that are widely distributed globally?

Maybe it's time to rewrite the aged and archaic laws, instead of selectively applying them to a handful of companies...

Are all the position in Microsoft WFH?

I have several friends who works in Microsoft and would disagree

If the job is WFH, is green card applicable?

Why wouldn't it be?

Because you could... Work from home? In Canada or India?

Is that supposed to be a downside? I honestly don't see why that would matter. If someone is working for a US company, then they're working for a US company. The flag sticking out of the ground where they sit shouldn't be relevant.

Yes it is, because America has a vested interest in writing laws to benefit, I don't know, AMERICANS.

American companies are for Americans.

Why would they need a greencard?

So they can visit for the team building exercises and holiday parties, obviously

If you have a green card, you must live in the US the majority of the time.

But if the job is located in Redmond, does that mean widely distributed in Redmond itself, or the Eastside, or all King County, or the whole Puget Sound area?

That's usually what a judge decides.

Anyway, I went checking and I wasn't able to find any opening in Microsoft in the Seattle times online version. Which is definitely not a nice optics and would play unfortunately well with the current allegations

I got a PERM at MSFT once - they publish the PERM ads with a lower salary than the regular ads for openings at the same level (IIRC the minimum needed by the DoL for certification), so you'd have to be a bit mad to apply for them. But I also bet they pick the most obscure local newspapers...

The point of a green card is "Nobody in the US was able to do this job"

In that context, "Widely distributed" really shouldn't be such a complicated concept. What does the NYT charge to run a classified ad?

"Nobody in redmond could do this job!". Cool, did you try any of the other 49 states at all? No? Then go away.

The concept is quite flawed for tech companies that hire everyone who passes their technical bar. There's not a finite number of positions that Americans and foreigners are competing for. There are many jobs where a) an American could do it if they want but b) no American feels like it or c) any American who does feel like it could easily get hired without needing the bureaucracy imposed on PERM applicants.

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