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Roughly, zero. Stimulants are not a fun dependency, come with a bucket list of side effects and downsides, and only mitigate one aspect of ADHD.

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ADHD treats with Lisdexamfetamine. Amfetamines, I repeat. People use this to study, to get high at parties, to be functional at work, so I really doubt there aren't patients out there abusing these drugs with valid prescriptions.

Yes, some people will abuse their prescriptions.

But the majority will not. Treating ADHD through stimulants usually has fantastic outcomes for patients.

So it isn't roughly zero, and this minority is what's being discussed here.

You brought up people "high at parties", no one else is discussing that.

and what about the rest of the discussion?

No, but if you're trying to argue that sleep therapy would be more effective for this group than non-stimulant form of medication, you need to prove this.

Sleepy therapy (CBT-I) may be the best supported treatment for insomnia, but it's still quite shit. ~50% of people will see little to no improvement after going through therapy.

I'm not arguing anything, I'm questioning

> Treating ADHD through stimulants usually has fantastic outcomes for patients.

does it though? this comment section should be testament to everyone on meds still struggling

Yes, anecdotal evidence is not a replacement for actual data.

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