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I read "The level of social opprobrium directed at LLM use and at people attempting to pass off generated slop as work is immense" and immediately checked for the author's Bluesky link. This person is living in a bubble. Most people in tech are now using LLMs at work and there is no social opprobrium discouraging them.

The rest of the analysis seems to take it for granted that we have hit a wall and LLMs will improve no further. OK. We'll see how that prediction plays out.

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> Most people in tech are now using LLMs at work and there is no social opprobrium discouraging them.

I don't know if "most people" is true, yet. I do think that the opprobrium has been silenced, and in corporate environments that has been systematic and top-down. Tokenmaxxing, leaderboards, monitoring: this is all part of making sure developers do not spend time considering the ethics, because the conclusions have been rendered moot.

Something like 90% of devs are using LLMs. It's how software gets written now, end of story.

> Something like 90% of devs are using LLMs.

That needs a citation, and context. Globally? The USA? The Valley? Where is this number from?

JetBrains developer survey 2026:

https://blog.jetbrains.com/research/2026/08/ai-coding-agent-...

"90% of professional developers were using AI coding agents at work at least weekly in one form or another (local agents or remote cloud agents), with 68% using them daily."

Re. context:

"The Developer Ecosystem and AI Pulse surveys are localized into eight languages: English, Spanish, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, German, French, and Portuguese. We apply quotas on the required number of responses by region to help achieve accurate global representation. ... The Developer Ecosystem Survey has been statistically reweighted to better represent the global developer population by region, employment status, programming language, and familiarity with JetBrains products"

Fully unclear who, actually, is being surveyed. Developers generally through some industry-wide survey? Or JetBrains users?

(The survey was run on Jetbrains instagram page, apparently. I mean… that is a bit of selection and narrowing going on there)

Notice how half of them have heard about Jetbrains!? I don't know any developers I would be confident know about Jetbrains (even among AI-using developers)

(Also the graphs don't really support the idea that 90% are using them meaningfully for software development.)

We need to start talking about anti-AI psychosis. That people actually think their delusions fueled by these echo chambers are real is almost as worrying as the AI booster bubbles.

I'm gonna go ahead and make the prediction that this eventually morphs into a kind of religion, like flat earthers.

Nothing that AI will ever be valuable, everything AI does is steal, nothing it creates is new, everything that the big labs publishes is a scam or hype. Oh and "it's just doing X", where you can substitute "X" with some kind of surface level description of how the output layer in an LLM works.

These tenets are already pretty much formed, all it needs is to be formalized by some kind of name or manifesto similar to Q-anon, and we've arrived at a durable state of permanent denial.

There‘s hardly anything to talk about, since most of those anti-AI people use LLMs anyway. It‘s hypocrisy at best. If only that energy could be channeled in doing more about open-weight models-we need more AI-ownership, not less AI. That LLMs will somehow magically disappear should Anthropic or OpenAI go bust, is nothing but wishful thinking.

Start talking to what end?

A majority of society already hates AI. I'm sure insulting them will really help your cause!

If the majority of society is simply wrong as a matter of fact, should we not talk about it?

For instance, should we not talk about MMR vaccine skeptics or climate change denial in societies where they are prevalent? When the majority of a society believes something that is wrong, that is the time we should talk about it the most.

They need a holy text.

Maybe an Orange Catholic Bible.

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