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>> Abolishing ICE and DHS

Ya, I am a fan of the coast guard... and I think we need the FAA/TSA to keep the planes running on time. And FEMA might be laughed at in some quarters but a federal disaster response is something we should have ahead of hurricane season.

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What does the Coast Guard have to do with my comment? It was founded in 1915 in its current form and has existed since 1790. DHS is only 24 years old, and was a reactionary response to a terrorist attack.

Coast Guard is DHS.

https://www.dhs.gov/operational-and-support-components

That's like saying that "abolish the AT&T monopoly" somehow means abolishing all phones.

No, what happens to the grouped-whole is not necessarily what happens to the parts.

And it can be kept outside of DHS after DHS is scrapped.

Ah, technically correct, my favorite kind! And ignoring the very clear point of the person you're responding to... excellent.

Or, pointing out the idiocy of the statement "get rid of the DHS", a wide umbrella agency, by showing the speaker lacks any basic understanding of what that agency is or does.

Clearly you've transferred a bit from your "old life" to your "new life". People who happily put on uniforms to make war can suck it.

Obviously we're not talking about getting rid of FAA or FEMA, but rather breaking up DHS back how it was before and getting rid of ICE. TSA doesn't do jack squat and is almost entirely security theater; it needs to go.

And FEMA is now so ridiculously politicized maybe it does need a rebuild, when you have leadership debating whether aid is deserved or granted based on whether a county or state voted for the malignant narcissist in charge.

Yeah bring back INS, but also disqualify anyone employed by the current DoJ or DHS from holding civil service employment in the future. Hopefully they'll be facing prison or even more severe criminal penalties for their conspiracy against rights.

Okay, then take those back out before dissolving DHS.

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