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Perhaps you don’t know the history or simply choose to ignore it. Initiating bombing, ethnic cleansing, stealing land, property and occupation of people for eight decades, while publicly declaring a desire to invade all the regional nations to create a greater Israel apartheid regime does generate pushback. Imagine that.

See professor john mearsheimer on the history & future of israel

https://www.youtube.com/live/z8wooQEYyzc?si=_STtJSdEjDUwIl72

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I’m well aware of the history.

What I meant was, I don’t think Israel is the only guilty party in that decades old conflict, nor the only side with agency to choose how to react in the conflict.

Read the Hamas charter, Iran’s statements about Israel, etc. Israel is not unique in choosing violence.

The Hamas charter is more-or-less isomorphic to the Likud charter, Likud being the currently ruling political party of Israel. So it's not fair to assign asymmetric blame to those charters.

On the contrary, I was using those charters to establish shared blame, rather than singling out Israel for every act of aggression in the conflict.

Regardless of what their pieces of paper say, Israel is the one that started wars against all of its neighbours.

This is a multi-sided conflict. Ignoring reality and history won't help, even if you feel very strongly that one of those sides is right.

  - 1948 - Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, and Lebanon invade Israel
  - 1956 - Israel invades the Sinai
  - 1967 - Israel preemptively strikes Egypt in response to military buildup 
  - 1973 - Egypt and Syria invade Israel
  - 1982 - Israel invades Lebanon
  - 2006 - Hezbollah attacks Israel

> - 1948 - Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, and Lebanon invade Israel

No. Israel invaded Mandatory Palestine. The arab states invaded and took Palestine. Egypt took Gaza. Jordan took the west bank. Israel took the rest. And the partition plan from the UN was never implemented. #conspiracy #tooEasyToBeCoincidental

> - 1973 - Egypt and Syria invade Israel

No again. Egypt invaded the Sinai, its territory as recognized internationally, yet taken by Israel in 1967. Syria invaded Golan Heights, again its own territory as recognized internationally even today, yet taken by Israel in 1967.

> - 2006 - Hezbollah attacks Israel

No again. Israel invaded Lebanon in 2006. Hezbollah demanded its soldiers back per agreement, and Israel was breaking its agreement. Hezbollah invaded Lebanese territory, given to them by Syria, yet occupied by Israel.

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