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Comment by verdverm | Hacker News Reader

The people deserve transparency, unlike how Meta escaped their dirty laundry being aired in the teen harm settlement. I'm disappointed in our politicians for choosing to settle so easily, like they were bought off by a billionaire.

If we wish for this behavior to end, we should see naming and shaming as a good thing, a step in the right direction. Real, commensurate consequences need to happen for these people as well.

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The city don't care who was speeding through a speed camera when they fine the registered owner of the car, me, many months later. The picture evidence doesn't show who, just the car and licence plate. I have to investigate and prove it was someone else or pay the fine.

But it's apparently controversial to not just fine the company and then let the company investigate themselves.

Yes, unless your car was stolen, you decided to let someone you trust to drive your car so you gotta pay the fine. I also pay for the toilet paper my house guests use. Hopefully they don't use too much.

There is a possibility red light camera will be invalidated for exactly this reason. When a cop pulls you over, they validate the driver at that moment. When the cameras are used, drivers have to prove their innocence, a shift in the burden of proof.

A florida judge ruled them unconstitutional, tbd if/when this goes to SCOTUS and what happens there...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47312090

Usually you have to find the perpetrator so you can summon them.

And in the cases where you can't figure it out you then summon people you suspect know to testify and use that information to figure out the perpetrator.

Like if you think somebody placed insider trades in the stock market you don't fine the NYSE $1 Billion and let them figure out who to fine.

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