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Musk is not my idol but I have to agree with him. Sending someone else's kids to die for a proxy war was the wrong move. They should have used diplomacy to resolve it. Europe is using Ukraine aka a small country for its proxy war with Russia that has become a perma war like in star-track.

People in the west want Russia to lose badly that they have no problem sacrificing some other country as their proxy just like Afghanistan war with Russia. Afghanistan became dust and land of warlords and did not become a democratic country and still running perma wars and it has been what, 40 years!?

Are they planning to continue this till all the kids in Ukraine die? For how many years?

Americans don't want the war to end either. They were part of the playbook at the onset. They are pretending to want to end the war. What they want is for Europe to finance the war without their contribution.

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“They should have diplomacy to resolve it”

You can’t have diplomacy with a group who systematically rapes and murders entire families.

You can’t have diplomacy with a group who purposefully targets civilians with reckless abandon instead of legitimate military targets to kill the people.

You can’t have diplomacy with a group who doesn’t believe you exist or should exist. That it would be better to execute you than negotiate with you.

You cannot have diplomacy with a group who brought mobile crematories to disappear your citizens. Who had lists for who should be be killed.

You cannot have diplomacy with a group who does not want diplomacy.

Early in WW2 the Jews would stand in line for hours to wait and be shot. They would queue politely to be executed. That is what “diplomacy” looks like in this case.

Ukraine was on the verge of surrendering early in the war. Then news of the Bucha atrocities reached the Ukrainian Leadership and they refused to surrender. Because surrender means certain death. That’s the thing folks don’t seem to get.. if you’re fate is to die.. or to fight and have a chance at not dying.

You fight.

In proxy wars, the apposition groups are evil and rapists except the ones that are sitting on sidelines and pump the war to continue. Whosever kids that are not dying in the war are the most ethical, moral and righteous. They parts Europe won't allow the war to end but not in their own home turf have the highest morals of them all! yup!

Most of Europe did not take care of their jews or helped them. They allied with Germans like vishy France. US turned back a ship of Jews that were escaping the war. USA's interest was in far east against Japan. They dumped the nukes on civilian populations there to solidify their takeover of Hawaii .. what a high morals.. wow!

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