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> can have online discussion without moderation

That's a big negatory.

>you publish on your site,

And your site gets a takedown for illegal content, or cops show up at your door and drag you out while beating you.

Life is heavily moderated in a million different ways. What we're talking about this point is just moderation or unjust moderation.

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It’s hard to take down sites on Tor. Usually impossible without the full weight of the FBI/CIA. I agree with the user above: we can do decentralised communication without censorship. Of course if you start from the faulty premise that online discourse needs to occur on one of a handful of censored platforms then that’s impossible.

And so tor has a reputation of mainly being used for illegal things - because it is - and several countries just block the entire thing.

Illegal, meaning There's laws against it, like being gay in many countries. Not morally wrong, although there is a lot of that.

Yes, but using Tor actually can have negative effects, such as buying illegal things, like drugs, and other things that you would want to be anonymous while buying...

Or like doing drugs, in other countries. If you make a system where you can be gay because the law can't touch it, you can also do drugs because the law can't touch it.

even in countries where it's blocked there are ways in. Chinese users are given unlisted bridges which camouflage their traffic signal.

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