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What's his deal with being pro-Putin? Kind of weird unless it's the usual corruption.

Most south americans consider imperialism from the north the major concern today as yesterday and think the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Plus, tankies are a thing.

So how does that make them support imperialist Putin? No logic there unless it's all about corruption as above, which is almost always the case with Putin's puppets.

For some reason Russia retains the anti-imperalist reputation of Soviet propaganda despite both being extremely imperial.

I think it's because neither incarnation could do imperialism via a navy so all the countries not on the Russian periphery never experienced it.

Yeah, soviets were imperialists as bad as they come, and modern Russia isn't any better. One must be really dumb to buy into such propaganda.

Back then may be access to information was harder, but there is no excuse today.

The Russians may be imperialists but lucky for South American countries they rarely leave their neighbourhood and have never visited the western hemisphere.

> What's his deal with being pro-Putin?

Currently looks smart. Brazil’s one security concern is seemingly in Putin’s pocket.

Being in his pocket is never smart. Europe learned it the hard way and still didn't even fully get rid of his gas blackmailing.

He's not pro-Putin.

He wants to sit on both chairs, benefiting from Putin and pretending he is not pro-Putin. It doesn't work that way.

He doesn't. He negotiates with all leaders because he's a statesman. Russia is an important ally of Brazil in many areas, but that never stopped Lula from calling him out over Ukraine.

Having basically a modern Nazi state as an important ally is a huge problem, which is exactly what I'm pointing out. I assume it's based on corruption, which is essentially another way to describe statesmen without values (i.e. he is willing to profit from Putin).

Calling out is just a PR thing, he still has dealings with Putin as you say. I.e. as above, trying to sit on two chairs.

He also does business and have alliances with Trump, whose administration has been actively hostile to Brazil. The world of international politics doesn't exist within the naïve set of rules yours seems to.

Pretty sure this is a yes / no thing. No excuses.

What? LMFAO

Not funny. Change Putin's Russia there to Nazi Germany and re-read what you said. Laughing still?

Change Nazi Germany there to Trump's USA and their strong ties with Netanyahu (and also Putin!) and re-read what you said. Laughing still?

What do you expect to happen? You live in la-la land, little buddy. Lula is a statesman in charge of the largest democracy in Latin America, and one that's just taught the entire world a lesson in democracy.

Retire to your tiny little corner of dream land and quit trolling and shitting on people who are actually trying to make the world a better place rather than spewing out useless ultra-ideological rhetoric with no practical consequences.

You are avoiding the point and sound almost like Putin's propaganda, so it's a waste of time.

You can't excuse sitting on two chairs with "it's politics" anyway. Collaborating with Nazis is collaborating with Nazis. Putin's buddies don't make the world a better place, that's for sure.

I am not avoiding the point. You are not making one in the first place.

No one is saying Putin is great or that he's making the world a better place.

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