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Why does everyone avoid publishing the most important part of the pricing while doing a comparison?

My coding sessions have a >97% input cache rate. DeepSeek got us spoiled. I am not going to use any AI provider with exorbitant or hidden cache rates.

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They did, I just didn't include it: $0.07 cached input / M

So 10x-20x vs Deepseek v4.1 Flash and I don't have on hand how efficient Mistral is regarding cache hits, etc.

On the other hand, could be some decent competition lowering pricing if the models general performance warrants broad hosting.

I know Claude Code now has /usage to see cache hit rate. I usually have >97% also.

Look at the Intelligence Index vs. Cost per Task. Mistral 4 is not competitive. https://artificialanalysis.ai/#intelligence-efficiency-tabs

Irregardless of wether or not Mistral Large 4 is competitive or not, I do not trust the AA numbers anymore, for various reasons. Them changing their numbers around so much recently brings the entire validity of this in question, not to mention if such a combined number is even important at all. The combined "intelligence" score of AA includes areas I do not care about or need at all.

Agree. They had just fiddled with the formula a few weeks prior to this, too. There seems to be an effort to get a certain result from the model rankings.

Exactly, these general scores are pointless. Let's say the model is amazing on A but crap on B and C. It gets low score, but you still would benefit greatly if you need it for A.

At this point, are you using Deepseek flash 4.1 or is somebody else paying for your model usage unconstrained or are you a moron?

> At this point, are you using Deepseek flash 4.1 or is somebody else paying for your model usage unconstrained or are you a moron?

Do you really need to insult someone over an innocent internet comment?

I would suggest to you to search for professional help for your issues and restrain from using the internet until you feel better.

Who do you imagine I insulted? If you get something for $2 but you pay $70 what can I say about you that is nice?

> what can I say about you that is nice?

Haven’t you heard the saying, "If you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all"?

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