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This doesn't make them bad guys, though.

edit: stating this based off of the linked post, but will read the article linked in the post as well.

edit edit: Okay, yeah. This seems like an awful place to work.

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Being cruel to your employees qualifies, regardless whether they care about the product, IMO. And it seems like those employees did care. Words matter and shape the environment people work in.

There's a lot of people on this site who think successful tech execs and founders should be able to do whatever they want to anyone and their communities. They all think they'll become one soon enough, so they're protecting their imaginary class interests.

They're sheep being herded by tech billionaires, who've gotten them to think they're pets and that they definately won't slaughter the second they're hungry.

They're more like veal calves.

My comment wasn't meant to imply anything of the sort. I think you can adopt AI aggressively without being a total dickhead, more or less. Doing it at direct expense to others' well-being is clearly a problem. I'll read the nested article to see how wrong I am, but the initial post that's linked didn't seem to indicate Proton have gone to the dark side. I'd need more evidence to judge them like that.

I wasn't aware of cruelty; just that they are opting to use AI. The tracking of AI produced code is tough; I have that at my org too, but it's more so to get a sense for who's using it, so we can find out why, help them use it better, etc.

I also only read the initial post and not the entire 404 article. I suppose if I could edit my comment and have it maintain some posterity, I'd say something like "going all-in on AI doesn't make you evil", but I concede that these guys could certainly be assholes if there's more to it (I'll read the nested article).

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