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Comment by drnick1 | Hacker News Reader

Just use plain HTML for God's sake. HN demonstrates very well that you can do plenty without some Javascript monstrosity. At the very least, make your your websites degrades gracefully when JS is turned off.

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I really have no idea where comments like yours come from. I‘m baffled each time I read it. You must be really, really far removed from any commercial browser development process.

Nope. I have more than 15 years in the industry. Sorry.

"do plenty" or just use React for everything and have a single thing where you don't need to worry about the limitations or having to remake the same stuff the framework provides?

and what % of users have JS turned off? 0.00001%?

HN uses JavaScript though, not just plain HTML.

And it certainly doesn't do "plenty."

HN is perfectly usable without JavaScript enabled.

The only feature that appears to require JavaScript is search.

Which doesn't even make sense. You don't need JS to trigger a form with a GET method, nor do you need JS to render the serve response to that GET.

AFAIK, search is really a place for Algolia to show off its API based search services to the HN audience, not really just built to be a simple static page search result to match the HN architecture.

> At the very least, make your your websites degrades gracefully when JS is turned off.

I have noped out of so many sites that are - or should only be - serving simple content when I see the "please enable JavaScript" notice or site just plain breaks. It's so disappointing and irritating.

At least one (or maybe two depending how you define things) of the examples does that. Because you mean "client side javascript".

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