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Comment by Shorel | Hacker News Reader

I dislike Oracle as much as anyone, but Google is the last company I would use as a cloud provider.

Google is worse, hmm, what are some of the reasons why? How could they be worse then endless software audits. I have heard of the endless pain of google killing something you depend on.

Because they can ban your entire corporate account, as a paying customer, for one developer that's flagged in their system joining your org.

And there's no human in the loop you can talk with when that happens. Just one automated response after another.

The only appeal possible is to become viral and force their hand to check your case.

Honestly, I would avoid both.

The painful banning that google does with automated takedowns and no humans to easily talk to is a real impediment. That feels like a perfectly legit complaint. That policy is so self destructive. I think all auto bans without human review should end, but instead we are just making this worse with more and more automated systems.

They are notoriously difficult to contact if your company is banned, or someone within your company is banned. That's it, poof, gone, everything you have.

Both companies are awful to customers. But the Oracle cloud product is truly terrible.

I had significant free credits for their cloud product. It was not even useful at a 0 pricepoint. I had to escalate repeatedly until I was doing screenshares with very high level engineers, to show them that their VM's, the more core offering, literally would not start.

They did have those Ampere arm chips which we mildly interesting for a hot minute a few years ago but seem to have disappeared somewhere.

I think we are in agreement here.

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