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It is such a massive miss from Google that it took them this long to release this model. I just ran it on my benchmark[1] and it matches Fable 5.2. They could have been first to get there, why didn't they?

That being said, it is still slower and more costly than Fable 5.2. So Anthropic wins in my eyes.

1 - https://bench.killswitch-lang.org/

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I think the fact that Gemini is now in the same conversation as Fable 5.2 is a crazy feat for them. So I dont think this feels like a miss to Google. Especially knowing that they have their next version in the works.

That doesn't feel like a massive miss to me. No one will remember which was officially debuted first in a months time.

They'll care about the quality and the cost, etc.

It's about generating hype, not about remembering which was released first.

I apologize if this comes off as dismissive, but why would hype matter? Google is already everywhere, I'd imagine they don't really have to generate hype like a startup would.

Almost all devs already use claude or codex. Unless there's enough hype, they won't give gemini a chance.

I started using Gemini because Claude constantly refused. Codex is good but still refuses more often than Gemini.

Don't see the incentive to generate hype. There's no IPO even if they convinced everyone they were leading AI it would be little benefit to them, in fact might hurt their cloud growth if people started jumping more into Gemini. They're better off keeping up for internal use and lying low publicly unless it gets very profitable

> it is still slower and more costly than Fable 5.2

How is it more costly? It’s 4 times cheaper.

Cheaper on the price list doesn't equal cheaper in use.

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