Then again, I've also got a niece who has expressed that her phone is a constant source of anxiety. She feels like she has to immediately respond to every text and social media post from her friends no matter what or there will be consequences which could range from causing others worry to losing social status and being potentially excluded as punishment. It sounds like a nightmare.
It’s impossible to say for sure, it I think I’d tell some to get concerned at a certain time if I hadn’t checked in. I still wouldn’t want people reaching out to me for every unscripted move I made.
My immediate thought was "ok so you're a young white male in a safe location running short distances in good weather during daylight hours only". Because any variation from that set means more gear.
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Gender specific question about your post: What is it that appeals so much to young men about minimalism? I have never been able to explain it. Look at their first apartment. It is skin and bones. Look at a young woman's first apartment. There are all of these nice (but cheap) homely touches. Same for fashion.
Lazy in the sense that we only think of bare essentials for most things, especially something like jogging. We don’t want to create more work for ourselves by dirtying more clothes than necessary, accessorizing, etc. We also generally just care a lot less about fashion and how people perceive us. Probably because we hardly even get noticed compared to women. It’s not like people are gawking if we wear the wrong bra. Women are more self conscious and care more in general about how they’re perceived.
The apartment comes with bare walls. Inertia is bare walls.
My wife likes putting everything on display. Like if there’s any surface, her urge is to cover it with what I call knickknacks, trinkets, and probably a dozen pictures. For me, it’s all clutter. Collects dust, creating a chore. If there’s an open wall she wants to hang stuff on it. She likes a wall of 100 small pictures, I’d prefer 1 large framed art. To me her way makes me feel things are chaotic. My way makes her feel it’s clinical and uninviting. We’ve found a balance that works for both of us. I like to have things decorated it’s just I really value white space as a design element. But I think if I were to psychoanalyze it, it’s rooted in the same thing that makes women’s brains always running/worrying and not understanding what men mean when they say “nothing” when asked “what are you thinking about?”
I think in contrast (most) young women's homes have more social signalling in them, homely touches, which has its own benefit equal to or most likely greater than minimalism.
I can say myself that I've always been minimalistic. My flat was bare bones because I treat the place mostly as a place to eat and sleep between spending most of my time outdoors or away from home. As soon as my girlfriend moved in a few years back, the flat went from everything white and "minimalistic" to being colourful and filled with little decorative things.
I'm glad there is more colour to the place and that somebody with an eye for it has taken charge of it, but I know if I went back to being single again tomorrow I'd go back to not having much around the place.
It's hard to generalize, and I myself am probably atypical here, but I suspect that most young men have their own 'little homely touches'. They might be less likely to run out and buy curtains or hang up pictures but I've seen things like random sports stuff (team merch or equipment that hasn't seen use in ages), old bear cans, action figures, books, guns, watches, guitars, and the occasional dead animal being displayed (or at least constantly left out and in view). It can look more organic than put together, but I've moved a guy's stuff only to find it put back in what was apparently its spot more than once.
One thing that's been wonderful to see has been men online sharing their living spaces and being told to get a plant and make their spaces homey. Guys should be encouraged to care for themselves and be happy and comfortable in their homes, regardless of the presence of women. It's really nice to see men actually taking care of themselves instead of living in sad helpless little minimalist hovels.
> helpless little minimalist hovels
This makes me think of this "Shoe on Head" YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llgCMv4bKuwIt's not like I've never suffered for it, for whatever that's worth. I turned an ankle at about the worst imaginable place a few years back and had to limp home nearly ten miles, which took half the day. Definitely having a phone with me would have made that more convenient, but I lived, it's still only half a day, and I've now got an amusing story to tell alongside all the times I've had to shit on the sidewalk in front of a building in downtown Dallas because the world refuses to have usable toilets anywhere outside of daytime business hours. I've broken my hand once on a run, but you don't need a hand to keep running.
I've also had a phone and it didn't help. I faceplanted hill bombing on a longboard a few years back and it turns out no rideshare driver will let you into their car when you're covered in blood, so I had to take my swollen shut eye, hanging limp separated arm, and go back home on the board and drive myself to the ER in my own car.
I feel like this kind of goes back to the entire point of the article. Like the guy who started this thread, I was a child of the 80s with a teen mom who put basically no restrictions on me and let me do anything, so I was walking around the neighborhood at 1 AM in 1st grade, riding my bike every weekend to the LA County public library 15 miles away when I was 8, going to skid row to hand out cash to homeless people when I got a car at 16. I capsized a canoe in the middle of Lake Arrowhead my freshman year of high school and had to swim back to shore dragging a boat behind me, which took over an hour. I got assaulted by a crazy dude living under a table on a pedestrian bridge skateboarding past him early in the morning, and I won the fight but he burned the hell out of my eye throwing hot sauce at me of all things. I've had my house flood. I've had my car smashed by a city dump truck while it was parked. I've had 9 orthopedic surgeries since turning 35 and my lumbar spine is now one solid bone held in place by screws and rods. I've been divorced twice. I've survived combat. I'm not afraid of bad things happening to me because they already happened and I ended up fine. This also gets at the other point already raised that, though women certainly seem to feel more threatened by the world, men are more likely to experience violence, injury, and early death because men take more risks.
I will, of course, meet a fate I can't overcome at some point. I'm going to die and there will likely be at least one thing I could have done differently that might have put that off by anywhere from a few minutes to a few decades. Maybe at the minute of death I'll even regret that. But I doubt it. I've been extremely close a few times and I was at peace with the idea. It has to happen eventually. I've still enjoyed most of the time I've had and intend to continue doing that. I've seen the lives of the extremely scared and it doesn't seem like they're doing any better than me.
in a safe location Fairly obvious. Phones at a minimum. Pepper spray too sometimes. Safe varies by gender. I ran through a heavily monitored area (data centers and government offices at 5 am) near a police station and still had a car turn and slow to follow me for a bit until I found a lit shopping are with people.
Running short distances Longer distances need water, electrolytes, and a phone. A bit of moleskin for blisters and a pack of tissues is also useful. If you're regularly doing 2-3 hours running without water, I would maybe worry about your kidneys.
in good weather A little rain isn't bad weather. If you are half naked running in the snow, I am going to assume you are on drugs. "Good weather" is also relative to running. If you are running in high humidity or heat, you need a hat, a shirt or sunblock, water, electrolytes.
During daylight hours only
You know folks running in the dark without a headlamp or reflective vest?
> I'm really curious why these traits specifically. I suppose I get why women feel threatened just existing outside of locked doors and walls, but you rattled off a very long list of otherwise not true things. I'm not young, not white, run through poor neighborhoods with high crime, usually extremely early hours before the sun is up, sometimes in the rain. I still almost always only have shorts, socks, and shoes. A shirt half the year.
Jeez, tell me you are a man without telling me that you are a man. Switch genders: Would you ever write this post? I doubt it.They paradoxically feel like very "tolerant" people because they disagree with so much, so the few things about the world and others they don't accept feels like a lot of work to sit with without constant judgement or disapproval, and often this leads to subtle manipulation if they don't feel comfortable enough. Even then, a lot of what they actually say they "accept" is just self-serving, e.g. authority figures, attempted relationships, status quo, etc.
In another paradox, the world becomes more confusing and complicated for them because eventually nothing truly makes sense, if we confidently try to live an oversimplified version of the actually complex and messy universe we are faced with. There's a feedback loop here that amplifies the situation to the point of disconnecting from reality.
Know how often something bad happened? Never.
I find it a very strange assumption, especially given the fact that men are much more likely to become victims of aggression.
(This also doesn't necessarily mean that such concerns are irrational, just that the risks are not so high that you should expect every woman going out for a run in the dark is eventually going to be assaulted)
The EU in general is very, very safe though. Most feelings of safety are just that - feelings.
Once your eyes adapt the full moon is easily bright enough to illuminate the ground.
Also, running in WA on a track by moonlight - I sincerely hope you have a phone with you. Beaches would likely be safe, but the tracks I saw living in the NT would be snake country.
I'd run by moonlight here in Maine on a track I know well, but the track is a groomed gravel road and we have no venemous snakes to play "snake or stick" with.
I'd also note that it's probably wise to at least carry a light with you, even if you don't use it.
I'd be genuinely surprised if your WA runners are going out minimalist running by themselves with zero gear besides shoes, by moonlight on unpaved trails for any significant distance. If you're in a group and one person has a phone, someone has safety gear and that's really not the thing I was describing, is it.
<yawn> - sure.
> I sincerely hope you have a phone with you.
Why? I'm nearly 70, grew up in the more remote parts, and don't have a mobile phone. My father, born 1935, now 91, leaves the house at 3:00pm every morning for a two hour walk about the boundaries - he takes a headlamp for when the moon is out. We both have St Johns, SES, Rural fire brigade backgrounds and aren't afraid of the outdoors.
> the tracks I saw living in the NT would be snake country.
The entirety of WA is snake country, also cats, foxes, dingoes, donkeys, camels, spiders, sharks in the water, blue ring octopuses, and all the usual things.
> I'd be genuinely surprised if your WA runners are going out minimalist running by themselves with zero gear besides shoes
Many of the people I grew up alongside have been at it for generations and tens of thousands of years and only recently started using shoes, but thank you for your concern ... I'll pass it on.
* More bare feet than thongs ( flip-flops in USAian, as I understand it ), more thongs than shoes (I counted two pairs) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmKxmxk6Gas
* Jill C, once wife of a former WA premier, loves her country and walking on it sans shoes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UKu3bCbFck
Dude, the guy I was talking to in that thread years ago was very elitist about how minimal he was and you definitely remind me of that attitude. You can be proud of your toughness and confidence in this, but also - why be proud at all if it's normal for everyone? It's not, and you know it.
I'm not particularly elitist, a majority of the people here in this state spend a great deal of time outdoors.
* Well done that lad - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-02-02/geographe-bay-rescue-...
* It's good to get out for a bit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robyn_Davidson
* My dad's slower, but he has completed this a bunch of times post 70 years of age: https://www.bibbulmuntrack.org.au/breaking-records-on-the-bi...
* Cliff, at 61, won a marathon after "training" by chasing sheep through paddocks in gumboots: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cliff_Young_(athlete)
Any thoughts on your own attitude toward me here? It's, uhh, mighty American of you - like, I appreciate you took the time to share your thoughts on my country after your extensive(?) experience in the NT but what are your self reflective thoughts on how you did that, looking back?