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Oh come on. Everyone knows these tech CEOs are distasteful humans, people just buy from them because they have little competition (from fellow evil tech CEOs).

The CEO's personality is irrelevant if they're selling something that's in high enough demand. Money matters more than anything.

This particular scandal is an issue for Nvidia because:

1. Actual espionage, national security, etc. is potentially in play - criminal charges cost money.

2. Liability from potential lawsuits around in-office affairs - civil suits cost money.

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Interpersonal relationships at companies are quite common, at all levels up to the C-suite. It depends on company policy whether it's permitted or not and Nvidia had no policy barring it. It becomes a legal problem in the event of coercion or favoritism, but otherwise, it happens.

See page 7 of https://images.nvidia.com/aem-dam/en-zz/Solutions/about-us/N....

> We avoid situations where our actions might create a conflict—actual or potential—between our personal gain and our obligations to NVIDIA. If such conflicts arise, we immediately remove ourselves from any decision-making role in the matter

"Personal gain" here is usually interpreted in a financial sense.

Why would other forms of personal gain be categorically ignored?

Yep, that doesn't say anything about personal private relationships between employees. Some companies have antifraternization policies, this is not that.

But such relationships can affect day-to-day decisions in a way that compromises the financial performance of Nvidia (by showing favouritism, for example).

This would be such a conflict.

I agree this other relationship gets more into gossip territory.

Thought, critics will no doubt be able to spin it as suspect: If it turns out that Jensen kept a spy as his mistress knowingly, what favours is he willing to afford the ladies…

I’m sorry for the employee if this was a genuine love affair.

Yeah like, what if it is in the company handbook that banging the CEO is totally on the table?

There's a big difference between fucking your coworkers and fucking your subordinates.

benis says no there ain't

That's the question, isn't it. It's easy enough to armchair quarterback and say that, as a man, I'm not that distasteful, and that I wouldn't do that, but I haven't been put in that position before. I can pretend to be the most pious, on the other side of my keyboard over the Internet, but, honestly, I haven't actually been sitting in that (bed)room as a billionaire against a woman who's motivated to get me to do her bidding. I can say all I want about what I would do, but that's all just hot air.

As a person with some social skills and what I'd like to consider ethics, I have gotten clear indication from beautiful women that they want to sleep with me. But if you're already at the point where you're in the bedroom with them and you find them attractive and know theyre willing, you're already losing. You're better off not getting to that point at all and cutting it off waay earlier.

Every man can be honest and break up or at least tell their partner that they liked another woman. There is no excuse for cheaters and you shouldn't be making it up.

People are not perfect. We succumb to all manner of temptation even as minor as eating that bag of chips by yourself.

But if I was that rich and married, I’d just divorce my wife, give her a ton of money, and use the many legal ways to enjoy the company of beautiful women.

That’s what really gets me. Which such resources at hand they behave so unethically when they can get what they want, when they want, with no complications if they really want to indulge themselves.

Marriage is somewhat of a fictional concept in human society. We aren’t like that penguin that mates for life.

We impose guardrails on people by making both entering and exiting a marriage expensive but that doesn’t mean marriage itself is real, physical thing you can feel and touch - it’s all a shared fiction like an LLC.

Insofar, expecting people to believe in the same fiction with the same fanaticism as you seems a stretch to me.

Then don't get married if you are a cheater. Is it that difficult?

Yeah. marriage is as real as anything else agreed between humans. So you either accept everything or deny everything

Assuming, given the context, you are using "cheating" in the colloquial sense of intimate relationships with other people, the marriage agreement has both parties agree to prioritize their respective partner, but it says nothing about exclusivity.

Maybe you're confusing marriage with some other agreement?

Lots of people are totally penguin like. #notallpenguins

Okay. So is war.

No it’s really easy. You decide right now: are you the type of person that would cheat on your spouse? Yes or no.

It's really not and even now most of you never heard the psychological concept of situational structural crime. Literally the idea that people otherwise normal can get incentivized to do dubious things because of the particular system they are put into.

A lot of the attribution bias has been one direction when in reality it's bidirectional. More people should study actual psych ideas and not rely on generalizations based on their own limited perspective.

There’s no situation where I would destroy the life I have with my spouse because I value it too much. Offer me a billion, the answer is no. Tell me I’d save the world, also no. What’s your book psychology say is wrong about that? ;)

Dude we just got married. Why you make me think of this?

Then again, how long was Huang married? Children? Enough means to support anyone in any configuration... Not like they needed to stick together for the mortgage.

Dunno. One should not do it, I agree. But I can imagine there are difficult times for relationships. What I want to say is: I agree cheating should be legal.

In this case I'm assuming Mr+Mrs Huang were in a monogamous relation. Which, well, I have no knowledge of nor desire to know more about.

In modern societies it's a problem between them. And I think I prefer it that way.

Tell you what, give me a few billion dollars and I'll put my money where my mouth is.

One woman, sure. Two?

Three now!

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