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Since it takes a while to digest the report after having seen it, chances are that they were in possession of the report far earlier than T-400ms but waited until they were in a time window where they knew the regulators would not come after them.

This is how fortunes are made. By taking advantage of loopholes in the regulatory mechanism.

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I don't know the way these reports are structured, but is it regular enough where there's even a possibility that a bot could digest, analyze, and act on the information there in near real time?

The thing is (supposedly and based on this chart) that this order was placed faster than that, even.

Edit to clarify.

How can you read this chart, and infer from it that the activity is due to having already read the report?

Surely everyone knew that the report would be released at 10:30, and they had strategies (or hedged positions) that were not as likely to be influenced by the contents of the report as by the market forces surrounding their orders?

I'm not, I'm not certain of that at all.

I don't have any idea, I don't want to sound snarky,

I read the headline and jumped to the same conclusions as everyone else. Jumped on Twitter and re-tweeted, all I had to say was "incredible"

After having some time to think about it, all I can say is...

Can you imagine how many people would be fired already if their dots were 5 seconds on the wrong side of 10:30, instead of being 400ms early?

Think this all there is. You could definitely build a real time system. http://ir.eia.gov/ngs/ngs.html

Hell, they even release it in JSON: http://ir.eia.gov/ngs/wngsr.json

> It is worth pointing out that the EIA Natural Gas Report comes out weekly (every Thursday at 10:30) and the market reacts within a few milliseconds. This is because the report centers on one number which makes it easy for machines to process and take action.

True but I also assume a large part of algo trading is deducing up/down signals from new information and acting quickly. I've heard the bigger reason high-freq algo trading is used is to mask larger moves in position in noisy trade bundles, avoiding price shock.

but why a spike at T=0 then?

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