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The sad part is that my current boss follows his "do not" list to the letter.

Yes, I'm working on leaving. Eight hours of that crap in the office, then usually 2-3 hours of job hunting in the evening after working in the yard or otherwise getting the house ready to sell.

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The even sadder part is that the "do not" way of working is the norm and the "do" is the exception in majority of the workplaces. And what these people in leadership positions don't realise is that it's good management that creates great results which directly affects the bottom line.

This is why the good start-ups do well because they manage better which results in better output.

have in mind that this will only work if you have great workers, that are able and willing to help theirselves. This attitude will be destroyed by continous bad leadership and will not come back very fast.

Tell me about it. Been there, done that. But to be fair, if you have good management, they'll do a good job of hiring in the right type of people as well. So it works both ways.

Actually, I've seen startups where this is the norm as well. It's inherent in a lot of "career managers", that is how they got to where they are now.

That's why I said good start-ups :)

I've been part of the not-so-good start-ups myself and have experienced "career managers" first-hand.

I totally don't understand how they got their in the first place though. I just don't get it?

Why don't you just talk to him about it? Too hard?

Lost cause. He's dead set in his ways, and if you don't think he's the equivalent of management Jesus, you don't deserve a job. I've watched coworkers try to talk to him about his management style and get escorted out by security before the conversation is over.

Changing one behaviour is something hard. That whole list? Not if you wait your entire career.

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