From the "no shit, Sherlock" files?

I mean, I don't mean to be flippant - or perhaps I do, it's late - but I genuinely didn't think there was still that much debate on this.

It's not like the Bush administration denies that they engaged in torture, they merely play semantic games by redefining the torture they engaged in as not-torture. Now we have some distance and are able to remind ourselves that this not-torture is actually, ya know, torture, then there's not really much left to debate is there?

That is actually a question, because I'd love to hear responses from folks who haven't internalized that the US did indeed engage in torture - and I am not attacking you for it if that's the case. I've possibly been laboring under a wildly inaccurate assumption.