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Been using the Microsoft 4000 for a couple of years now, every time I use it is a joy.

I did own a couple of 4000s because I was intrigued by its good reputation as well as its design.

While the general ergonomics is much better than it is in standard keyboards, I've never liked how much force is needed to push a single key. And I don't mean just compared to mechanical keyboards or scissor switches -- the keys needed more force to press even compared to other rubber dome keyboards that I own.

While the palm rest is great as is the curvature, when it came to daily use and pushing the resisting keys, it simply wasn't as much a joy for me as for stickydink.

I have one, and it's been in a cupboard for years. What you said is part of it. But more importantly: I look like a complete nerd (not in the good way) using it. I fear using it, because it's so ridiculously massive!

Edit: I want a minimalist two-piece keyboard, with keys like a macbook..

It's not exactly what you're looking for, but the ErgoDox is selling on MassDrop right now and is a pretty neat little thing (pricy though). It's a hackable two piece with nice switches.

See: http://ergodox.org/

Haha, thanks, but no thanks. That thing looks like it came straight out of a Star Trek episode!

Have to agree - despite the good reviews, the keypress on the 4000 feels wrong.

I was on the Microsoft Natural Elite for a long time. Unfortunately it's been discontinued so I need to find a replacement.

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