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> There is no "M7 co-processor" [1] chip in the device - possibly it's just marketing for some part of the A7?

Not sure why the iFixit guys jumped to the conclusion that it was possibly marketing fluff. It is an SoC after all, the M7 doesn't have to be a separate chip on the logic board.

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The wording and the slide images at the 5C/5S presentation were definitely calculated to give the impression that M7 was an actual chip with its own package http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZac8af1L4E#t=619 . Phil Schiller even explicitly says "the M7 chip" at 11m52s in the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZac8af1L4E#t=11m52s .

Not really no. And anyway, it’s not like that’s a discussion worth having. Where the M7 is does not matter at all. What matters is whether it’s there or not and whether it does what Apple says it does. It being on the same die as the A7 does not prevent anything Apple said it would do from happening.

Not really? So Phil Schiller saying "the new M7 chip" is not really meant to suggest that the M7 is a chip? Pull the other one. Of course it doesn't really matter, but evidently it mattered enough to Apple marketing for them to lie about it.

The Apple hate is strong with this one.

I thought the M7 was presented as a co-processor, from Apple.com, which has nothing referring to it as a chip:

> Every iPhone 5s includes the new M7 motion coprocessor that gathers data from the accelerometer, gyroscope and compass to offload work from the A7 for improved power efficiency. [1]

As a co-processor, its probably embedded in an SoC.

[1] http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2013/09/10Apple-Announces-iP...

I'm not sure they "lied."

http://www.macrumors.com/2013/09/20/a7-processor-manufacture...

Ok, then they truthfully claimed that the M7 is a separate chip; excellent. Hopefully now we can stop pretending that is not what they claimed.

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