Was Manning's treatment due process? Because it seems she was stripped naked and kept in isolation for several years.
I think I'll take the exile, thanks Barry.
I think I'll take the exile, thanks Barry.
The scary scenario would be the classification of Snowden as an enemy combatant, who would then be subject to military justice. I hope that all three branches of the US government consider that to be a ridiculous stretch of the imagination.
[1] http://uscodebeta.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-pre...
As someone from outside the US, I found that particular advocacy (and the rationales claimed to justify it) one of the low points of recent years. It makes sense that you might need different rules for acceptable treatment of enemy combatants when you're in combat, when you don't have the luxury of time and calm deliberation that a court affords because people are shooting at each other. But to me, the appropriate response to recent "terrorist" attacks is to treat them exactly like any other threat, assault or murder, and to put suspects/perpetrators through exactly the same legal processes as anyone else. It is disturbing that we are even considering the possibility that someone who isn't accused of any violent crime at all might have to worry about being labelled an enemy combatant and thus forfeit their normal legal right to due process.
[1] http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dc/2013/04/king-mccain-grah...
There really isn't that sort of problem with Snowden. A videotaped, non-coerced confession? Hundreds of articles sourced by him? How could the facts be clearer-cut? Trials could begin immediately, the worst he could do is pull an Assange-style blockade in some embassy.
That shit has sailed before it was built.
If we compromise our values in the name of defending freedom, there is no freedom left to defend.
I think you're reaching looking for an insult here.
I'm seeing a lot of grandstanding and assumed affront in this post (Pincas above as well). It's not becoming.
People can be asses and still do the right thing on occasion. And sometimes a nickname is just a nickname.
Small side note: Referring to Manning as 'he' in events she was involved in before Manning to choose to publicly make a switch shouldn't be an issue -- that's something Manning herself suggested actually. So for the grandparent post to have used the 'he' pronoun would not have been an issue at all.
Which would make its use understandable if Obama gave it up in college a few months ago, and the person using it was someone who had interacted with him frequently during the time he was using it. Less so when he graduated from college before many of the adults using it were born, much less became aware that Mr. Obama existed.
> I think you're reaching looking for an insult here.
I think you're reaching looking for a justification for the equivalent of mocking a mid-career professional by persistently using a nickname they stopped using in kindergarten.