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Fuck it I'm moving to Switzerland.

Honestly if I could find symmetrical adsl2 I'd be happy. Download speed is nice but I'm a gamer upstream is everything.

Games don't use much bandwidth, what you need is a low ping (you get in with ADSL by being near the central, and having your ISP set you a fastpath profile). Unless you need that bandwidth to stream what you're playing.

"symmetrical asymmetrical DSL" is an oxymoron, but where you get ADSL you can usually get SDSL/SHDSL. It's just going to be a lot more expansive :)

ADSL is pretty much a death technology, and the sooner we leave it behind the better. There is Annex M which could give a decent boost in upload (~3mbit) but it has seen a very low adoption rate.

Symmetrical ADSL is an oxymoron, the word you search for is SDSL.

I don't think anyone uses SDSL anymore, VDSL2 is where the action is at (in DSL tech).

Move to Tokyo and get symmetrical FTTH for ~30USD/month.

Just move inside a rack. There's a lot of buzzing noise, but it's cold, dark, and there's good internet access.

Mind explaining how living inside a rack is comparable to living in Tokyo? My apartment in Bunkyo, Tokyo is as quite as the one in Zurich, Switzerland was. And if that's too noisy there's lovely neighbourhoods like Kichijoji that are even more quite. Where the "cold" and "dark" comes from I do not know, I'd recommend you visit here in summer and experience for yourself that it's anything but cold.

They weren't comparing Tokyo to a rack. They were using it as the next logical progression for improving your network speed.

In this case I apologize. It's hard sometimes to read nuance/intention in text-only conversation.

I <3 Tokyo :)

Upstream? As a gamer myself, I'd rather have low latency. Games don't need that much bandwidth anyway, downstream or upstream.

Maybe he likes to stream his gaming to twitch or something, I've heard that is a thing nowdays.

Move to Romania instead. Symetrical gigabit ftth for ~18$/month. I have had it for almost a year now.

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