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Or Niclas Luhmann, Maturana and Varela?

Yes...I think we can all agree that I've committed an unpardonable sin by only including 3 luminaries. There's only so much time in an interview.

Please tell me where you work so I don't apply. It's just that every time I think about Tannenbaum I'll remember your posts. For me, that's not good.

I don't think either of us need worry about that.