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> And Stroustrup says about himself that he "lacks marketing clout" and says Java and C# are bad for you because they're "platforms, not languages", whatever that means.

Perhaps Stroustrup is referring to the JVM and CLR, respectively?

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Right. Java-the-language depends heavily on JVM-the-environment to be usable. Without an excellent GC (sometimes even with one) common coding patterns are unworkable, and the design of the language lends itself heavily to GC-dependent overall designs. There are also aspects of the implementation details that dominate language design (eg, primitive boxing and the generics implementation).

That said, if you know what you're doing it's a great platform.

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