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> b) it's an old timer who has never gotten with the times.

As someone who knows the author of the post, that is mostly true ;)

In all seriousness, while I generally agree with your sentiments I don't think that Perl is dead within Bioinformatics. Not least since major data providers, e.g. Ensembl, write their tools in Perl.

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Heh.

Oh I know it still exists, but while this is admittedly anecdotal on my part (and likely heavily biased by the institutions I've been a part of) I haven't seen a single new person who defaults to Perl in a very, very, very long time.

And to be clear, I'm not trying to rip the author or the article, it just seems ... oddly timed, like writing a contemporary article on how to use COBOL in the business computing space.

Author of the post here. I think my comeback would be Perl 6 is a completely new language, that's only just becoming usable from a long design and development process. A lot of people dont think about it this way because they have zero idea what Perl 6 is about. If you don't like sigils on your variables you aren't going to like it though :P I use Perl 5, Python and R on a daily basis. I try to avoid BASH in favour of Perl, as it genuinely is just less crazy and is perfect for the same tasks. Python isn't a great shell script replacement. I like Perl 6 mostly because it lets you write nicer Perlesk code that isn't quite so disposable and gross. At the moment Perl 6 isn't completely viable for daily use, just because of performance. I also know Java and C quite well but rarely work on anything that needs the perf of these languages given the overhead for someone who is a researcher rather than fulltime programmer.

Fair point. I haven't looked at Perl6 since the early aughts and assumed it was basically exactly what I saw then. I didn't realize that it was just now starting to blossom.

Lol not sure I would go as far to say its just started to blossom. Some flowers are weeds to one person and a pay-for wild flowers to another. Each to their own!

I think the suggestions is that Perl 6 is a very different beast to Perl 5. Or to put it another way, you could read the title of the post as "Bioinformatics and the joy of Foo Programming Language".

I'm not sure I agree with that, however.

It's not too far off the mark.

Perl 6 is probably best described as a dialect. The look and design of the language are very Perl-ish, but some of the key sore points from Perl 5 (OO, concurrency, etc) are addressed and it has added a number of killer features. This is not Python 2->32; it is a major overhaul of the language, with no backwards compat beyond a suggested perl 5-compatible layer (I believe this is called 'v5').

The article touches upon a few (Grammars for instance), but I personally think the concurrency work will also be a real draw.

The other key difference is that Perl 6 is actually a specification with an official test suite and Grammar (STD). I believe the specs indicate that anything that passes the test suite can be deemed to support 'Perl 6', which really opens up the use of various backends. The Rakudo Perl 6 implementation has support for three (MoarVM, Parrot, and JVM).

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