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Comment by DanielStraight | Hacker News Reader

This looks like a really cool product, but where are the TOS and privacy policy? I know not having them is the in thing now (I'm looking at you, StackOverflow), but there's no way I'm signing up for anything and giving my data without them.

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They are presented during the second stage of signup.

Yet I would never go to the second stage without seeing them. This sounds like a paradox.

... and I just signed up without seeing any TOS, so...

The links I got from the second stage(Which I had to agree to via a checkbox) are these: https://a.thymer.com/accounts/tos https://a.thymer.com/accounts/privacy

Why did I not get this second stage???

It was a bit of a dilemma for us. On the one hand, we realize the importance of the TOS and Privacy policy, on the other hand, we don't like the "Hi there, thanks for visiting. Please sign our TOS" kind of welcome; it's so cold.

EDIT: added links to the TOS and Privacy policy to the footer on thymer.com

Right but it's silly to say, "Make sure you - and, when using Thymer in a team, all other team members - ("you") read these Terms carefully before subscribing to Thymer. By using Thymer you agree to become bound by these Terms. If you do not agree to all Terms, you may not subscribe to Thymer," and then not put a link to these terms anywhere in the signup process.

Thanks for pointing that out. We meant to give people the chance to first try it without having to bother through all kinds of forms, so our initial idea was to reflect these terms onto the (free) subscription period after the testing. But I agree the way it's presented now is a bit confusing. So we're going to change that, thanks!

Awesome. I realize I'm probably in the minority on reading TOS, but when I'm paying for something (or trying something which I might pay for), I like to know all the details, especially when I'm likely to be submitting personal data to the site.

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