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Comment by abc_lisper | Hacker News Reader

I will not let my coworkers see me typing expletives into terminal; much less if it is a woman.

It is a nice idea, though. Will use it if it's called auto-correct or something.

I'm not sure what difference you think gender makes, unless you think women are delicate flowers that must be sheltered from bad language, but I do agree that it would be better named something more office friendly. I'd suggest 'argh', 'grr' or 'gah'.

Profanity is (deliberately) uncomfortable to people who are not part of your in-group. Women are more likely to be/feel excluded from in-groups in technology workplaces.

If I specifically don't swear around a woman colleague, while I would usually swear around all my male colleagues, isn't that exclusionary? Wouldn't treating her the same as I treat everyone else be more inclusive?

Profanity is a wonderful spice of life, it is deliberately uncomfortable to people who take things way too seriously.

Get back to me after someone you don't like or don't trust throws you some of that spice.

you mean like being in any public space? I only get to control how I react.

> Women are more likely to be/feel excluded from in-groups in technology workplaces

... because people want to treat them differently, perhaps?

I get your point, but I think the problem is with in-group behaviour. You are comfortable with swearing if you're very comfortable with the group dynamic.

But there are plenty of out-groups in technology along plenty of lines, who may privately be uncomfortable in this situation; and gender is only one of those lines.

If we pretend there is no problem with gender that needs addressing in this respect, it's not that we are excluding women: it's that we are excluding every aspect of diversity in technology.

Simply change the alias to something else:

    alias doh='$(thefuck $(fc -ln -1))'

pragmatic and in the hacker spirit, but I'm guessing that the message is more important to the GP than actually using the software.

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