You're rhe one who brought up levels. All I am claiming is that the comment earlier stating that Adria and Shanley are "non-technical" is wrong. I'm not making a motal or quality judgment about anyone, just calling all these people technical people. (And so I'm sorta confused why you are debating this point if you don't know who Shanley' is / what her technical qualifications are, but apparently we were debating different points and talking past each other.) Let me know how I could be more clear!