In New Zealand recently, there's been a 'debate' on whether or not we should change the flag. They've spent... $26 million on this so far, and yeah the populace is discussing it and such, but the funniest thing I hear most often is: "who the fuck cares?! it's a flag!"

Probably why they want to change it, to make it more "Kiwi" 'cos right now it's pretty similar to the Australian flag, and feels more "commonwealth" than an Independent blah blah boring nation.

I'm still confused as to why Americans love their flag. That said, I don't think I've ever met anyone who fits the 'non-stop pride, arrogance and smugness pouring out of Europe' 'cos that sure would be awful. At least the American flag just breezes around without annoying anyone. Personally, I think it's nice that people have passion/pride for their nation.